{"id":10074,"date":"2010-03-04T15:37:40","date_gmt":"2010-03-04T14:37:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/survivors-from-atlantis-frobenius-sixteen-gods-oracle-of-fa.html"},"modified":"2026-03-28T16:12:28","modified_gmt":"2026-03-28T15:12:28","slug":"survivors-from-atlantis-frobenius-sixteen-gods-oracle-of-fa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/survivors-from-atlantis-frobenius-sixteen-gods-oracle-of-fa.html","title":{"rendered":"Yoruba And Etruscans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-33518 size-full\" title=\"\u00c9trusques et Yoroubas pas SKI Stef Kervor Infographie pour Eden Saga, d'apr\u00e8s : fresque \u00e9trusque, By Internet Archive Book Images - https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/internetarchivebookimages\/14802137463\/Source book page: https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/trusquesrome00zschuoft\/trusquesrome00zschuoft#page\/n58\/mode\/1up, No restrictions, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=43833702 --- et d'apr\u00e8s : statuette de bronze, peuple yorouba, Par Rvalette \u2014 Travail personnel, CC BY-SA 4.0, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=41643579\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/\u00c9trusques-Yoroubas-wkmd-ski-1900x1141.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1141\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"chapo\">Etruscans and Yoruba, such a comparison may seem incongruous: the Etruscans inhabited northern Italy, they gave way to the Romans after being their guardians; while the Yoruba are an ethnic group in West Africa, still evident today. What connection can there be between two very different people? The right question is: are they so different that they look?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Through common beliefs, Etruscans and <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/atlantis-american-empire-back-to-europe-etrusque-africa-yoruba-country.html\">Yoruba<\/a> appear as the same culture from Atlantic. They are two fraternal peoples, having long lived together on the island of Atlantis or in Amerca, and who have returned to their ancestral lands when the latter disappeared.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-22869 size-full alignright\" title=\" Femme \u00e9trusque en terracotta H=74.8 cm (IV\u00e8 - III\u00e8 si\u00e8cle av J.C.) - Author: AlkaliSoaps -  Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic -  https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Femme_%C3%A9trusque_(Terracotta).jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Femme-\u00e9trusque-Terracotta-200po.jpg\" alt=\"femme-etrusque-terracotta-200po\" width=\"200\" height=\"333\" \/>The <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/atlantis-american-empire-back-to-europe-etrusque-africa-yoruba-country.html\">Yoruba have regained West Africa<\/a>, while the Etruscans joined Northern Italy, where they passed the torch of their ancient culture to a new emerging European people, the Romans. Indeed, it is an Etruscan she-wolf that nurtured Romulus and Remus, the legendary twin founders of Rome.\u00a0In ancient Ireland, the Tuatha played the same role to the Celts: they instructed the Celts before leaving this planet &#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Last century researcher <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/atlantis-american-empire-back-to-europe-etrusque-africa-yoruba-country.html\">Leo Frobenius<\/a> made an astonishing parallel between the Etruscans and the Yorubas.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">For him, Etruria and Yoruba country were two provinces of a very old\u00a0<em>&#8220;<a class=\"link\" title=\"To which also belongs the kingdom of Sheba, the current Ethiopia.\" href=\"\/en\/hebrew-mythology-solomon-balkis-menelik-lion-of-judah-ark-covenant-queen-of-sheba.html\">Atlantic civilization<\/a>&#8220;<\/em>\u00a0he identifies with\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/greek-philosophy-mythology-timeos-critias-plato-s-atlantis.html\">Plato&#8217;s Atlantis<\/a>. The Etruscans, a little known people installed in northern Italy before Romans, were probably direct heirs of Megalithics and Atlanteans.<\/p>\n<p>The Yoruba country, known as the ancient gold coast, corresponds to the current Nigeria, plus Benin and Togo.<\/p>\n<p>Frobenius stresses that the two countries, though far apart, share\u00a0<em>&#8220;this fundamental idea of the lightning spurting from the sixteen regions of the sky.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0He mentions this\u00a0<em>&#8220;lightning conception that the Etruscans transmitted to the Romans.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Leo Frobenius, Kabyle Tales<\/span>\u00a0The sixteen great gods whose homes are in the sixteen divisions of the sky,are common to Etruscans and Yorubas. That is why the cities were divided in sixteen districts reflecting the celestial homes and the personality of their sixteen divine occupants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"note\"><em>&#8220;All this is the projection of sixteen archetypal figures: the sixteen figures of the Oracle of Fa, itself derived from the ancient geomancy.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Leo Frobenius, Kabyle Tales<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"note\">Although I have a deep feeling for the F note, particularly the F#, I must say that the Oracle of Fa does not refer to the music note called fa in French or F in English.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"note\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-22870 size-full alignleft\" title=\"D\u00e9esse M\u00e8re Yoruba, bois sculpt\u00e9, B\u00e9nin - Sculpture of a 'Queen Mother' from Benin - CC BY-SA 3.0 - By Bin im Garten - Own work (own picture), CC BY-SA 3.0, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=14742880\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/yoruba-deesse-Ethnological_Museum_Berlin-200po.jpg\" alt=\"yoruba-deesse-ethnological_museum_berlin-200po\" width=\"200\" height=\"333\" \/>The Oracle refers to the goddess Fa or Ifa, one of the sixteen Yoruba deities. Fa governs clairvoyance and divination through a ritual that is still practiced. The other deities of Yorubas remind of the Greek, Etruscan and Aztec gods : Uranus is Obatalla, the god of heaven; Hephaestus is Ogun ; Ifa is Athena, protector of human race; Poseidon is Olokun, god of the sea; Zeus is Shango, god of lightning, with his unique destiny: Shango hanged himself. Come on! Aren&#8217;t the Yoruba gods immortal? Probably not. God Shango hanged himself, then he left this reality level to live his death, as the good spirit he was.<\/p>\n<p class=\"note\">Where is the problem? The gods are\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/european-mythology-former-gods-fake-creators-genetics-divine-usurper-demiurges.html\">men like us<\/a>. The Yoruba country knows the loas sorcerers and zombies: voodoo and macumba come from this country. Here everyone is dedicated to one of the sixteen deities, according to his date of birth. All life through, he&#8217;ll worship his tutelary deity. But there is no caste or clan system, as the different children in a family may be linked to different deities.<\/p>\n<p>In this specific case, tradition is not a social obstacle, but an asset. Anyone can enrich the family with own inner wealth, from own tradition.<\/p>\n<p>It is the central orix\u00e1 of the Brazilian Candombl\u00e9, which is found in voodoo under the name of Papa Legba or Exou, Esou, Exu, Bara, Legba, Elegbara, Eleggoua, Alouvai\u00e1, Bombo, Njila, Pambou, Njila. It is found in Benin and in the ancient kingdom of Dahomey in Ondo, Ilesa, Ijebu, Abeokuta, Ekiti, Lagos.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/alacantine.eklablog.com\/hermes-noir-ou-le-dieu-qui-ouvre-les-barrieres-a5011364\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">(source)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Etruscans, for the little we know, followed a similar religion. Should we see here a true astrological religion based on sixteen signs instead of twelve? In any case, it is certainly a memory of\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/greek-philosophy-mythology-timeos-critias-plato-s-atlantis.html\">Atlantis<\/a>, homeland of the Etruscans and the Yorubas.<\/p>\n<p>Here is another track: wouldn&#8217;t the\u00a0<em>sixteen divisions of the sky<\/em>\u00a0show that the Yoruba gods came from the sea? If there is a place where it is important to divide the horizon into sixteen directions, it is definitely the wide ocean. From time immemorial, sailors have included wind rose on their marine maps, which is their strongest ally in the liquid desert, the compass rose. The\u00a0<em>sixteen directions of the sky<\/em>\u00a0mean that Yoruba gods were high seas&#8217; sailors, to whom the direction was very important.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-20002 size-full\" title=\"&quot;Vergina Sun - Golden Larnax&quot; by SilentResident - Own work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Commons - https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Vergina_Sun_-_Golden_Larnax.png#\/media\/File:Vergina_Sun_-_Golden_Larnax.png  --- modifi\u00e9 par \/ modified by Stef Kervor, Eden Saga\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Vergina-soleil-688po.jpg\" alt=\"Vergina-soleil-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Vergina Sun \u2014 also known as the Star of Vergina, Macedonian star, or Argead Star \u2014 is the name given to a symbol of a stylised star or sun with sixteen rays. It was unearthed in 1977 during excavations in Vergina, in the northern Greek region of Macedonia, by archaeologist Manolis Andronikos. He discovered it on a golden larnax in the tombs of the kings of the ancient kingdom of Macedon. <em>&#8220;A\u00a0larnax\u00a0(plural larnakes) is a type of small closed coffin, box or &#8220;ash-chest&#8221; often used as a container for human remains in ancient Macedonia&#8221;\u00a0<em>\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">wikipedia<\/span><\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Most probably these high sea sailors were coming from the other side of the Atlantic, some 9,000 years ago. This could explain many cultural similarities that can be found between the two shores of the South Atlantic. Other authors have highlighted the existence of a maritime tradition in West Africa during the early history, these include Harry Bourne,\u00a0who also quotes Paul Johnstone (Seacraft Prehistory, 1980) and McGrail (ib . &amp; The Boats of Ancient Northwest Europe, 1987).<\/p>\n<p>As for the Etruscans, their worship of the\u00a0<em>&#8220;sixteen divisions, sixteen deities&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0also accredits their transatlantic origin, like the\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/celtic-mythology-ulster-giants-megalithic-great-goddess-sidh-tuatha-de-danaan.html\">Tuatha d\u00e9 Danann<\/a>. About\u00a0the Etruscans, we do not know much, except that they were the initiators and civilizers of a nation of warriors who will become the powerful\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/calendar-caesar-pope-gregory-year-s-eve-spring-printemps-the-roman-year.html\">Roman Empire<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-22868 size-full\" title=\"fresque \u00e9trusque, tombeau de Tarquin - On peut y voir des noirs et des blancs dansant ensemble - Fresque du banquet de la tombe 5513 de Monterozzi - Par Waugsberg \u2014 own photograph - eigene Aufnahme, CC BY-SA 3.0, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=3775314\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/etrusque-Tombe-Tarquin-688po.jpg\" alt=\"etrusque-tombe-tarquin-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>We also know that this people was made up of two ethnic groups, one black and one white, who lived in harmony as evidenced most Etruscan frescoes depicting daily life in Etruria.<\/p>\n<p>And about\u00a0the Tuatha, we know almost nothing except that they have played the same role of trainers for the Celts. Little by little, a new empire is formed on the ruins of another time.<\/p>\n<p>To those who care about national identity and who would like to restore in the heart of every French the pride of inheriting a glorious past, we may suggest this track: by making the merging of the two currents that have made Europe, namely the Celtic tradition and the Roman law, the Gallo-Roman France illustrates at the same time the unification of two post-Atlantean traditions, those of the\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/celtic-mythology-ulster-giants-megalithic-great-goddess-sidh-tuatha-de-danaan.html\">Tuatha<\/a>\u00a0and the Etruscans. Through the Celts and Romans, France is a distant descendant of Atlantis. Like Africa.<\/p>\n<p>And like America &#8230; All of them united in a new triangular trade. For the best this time? Let us unite, let us be united on earth. Our alliances are our wealth. Our merger creates diversity, guarantee of renewal and growth. Do not be afraid of differences, by adding up they multiply their benefits.\u00a0<a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/flu-climate-crisis-pollution-depression-fear-fury-terror-resist-to-bad-trippers.html\">Only fear divides<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-19999 size-full\" title=\"A gauche : Etrusque; Buste de Sarapis (mus\u00e9e du Louvre)  Buste de Sarapis ou Serapis  -- photo Jean-Pierre Dalb\u00e9ra -- CC BY  2.0  -- \u00e0 droite : &quot;Arte yoruba, nigeria, testa da ife, 12-15mo secolo&quot; by I, Sailko. 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