{"id":10281,"date":"2024-07-08T05:00:05","date_gmt":"2024-07-08T04:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/antique-computer-calculator-solla-price-calendar-archimedes-piri-reis-antikythera-pc.html"},"modified":"2024-11-11T21:22:57","modified_gmt":"2024-11-11T20:22:57","slug":"antique-computer-calculator-solla-price-calendar-archimedes-piri-reis-antikythera-pc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/antique-computer-calculator-solla-price-calendar-archimedes-piri-reis-antikythera-pc.html","title":{"rendered":"The Antikythera Computer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-68030\" title=\"Les principaux rouages du calculateur d'Anticyth\u00e8re reconstitu\u00e9s \u00e0 l'identique  ---  iks24\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-mecanisme-iks24-1700x1020-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1381\" height=\"828\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 15px;color: #993300\">A first version of this article was published in 2011. I have to modify it to include data revealed in Science et Vie of July 3, 2024.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span class=\"chapo\">Found near Antikythera, Greece, this computer is considered <em>the first analog calculator for calculating astronomical positions. It is a bronze mechanism comprising dozens of gears, solidary and arranged on several planes. It is filled with many Greek inscriptions,<\/em> says Wikipedia, which dates back a little. Here are more recent data&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Too modern to be antique<\/h4>\n<p>This machine too modern to be ancient has intrigued scientists since its discovery. It is also called mechanism, computer, calculator&#8230; The modernity of the names given to him is perplexing. For me, recent progress in his analysis shows evidence: our very distant past is much more technological than we thought for a long time. And that we still believe it, and first among scientists.<\/p>\n<p>Archaeology, more than other scientific disciplines, is marked by <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/neolithic-cro-magnon-cave-painting-lascaux-a-prehistorian-scene-altamira.html\">the beliefs and convictions of researchers<\/a>. As such, it remains one of the scientific fields where a-priori obstacles to real discoveries. Or, when discoveries are made, and impossible to conceal, Western archaeology tries to <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/stone-or-metallic-carved-balls-artefacts-archaeological-singularities.html\">pass them under silence<\/a> because they do not fit with the current representation of our past. This is a scam.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-68067 size-full\" title=\"Le calculateur referm\u00e9 (face) -- reconstitution\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-ferme-dos-600x1000-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"1000\" \/>Antikythera\u2019s calculator is a fine illustration of this: the mysterious object was first ignored, until a brave &#8212; and lucky! &#8212; exhumes it from a museum storeroom. Then science finally took an interest. And it continues thanks to the University of Glasgow.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Sponge fishermen<\/h4>\n<p>The singular history of this complex machine begins at Easter 1900. A crew of sponge fishermen fled a gale and diverted to the island of Antikythera, located between Crete and the Peloponnese. Freedivers spend a few days looking for sponges on the shores of the island, while the weather improves.<\/p>\n<p>They then discover a large wreck (<a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/sighted-cat-stevens-atlantis-landing-to-europe-yusuf-islam-longer-boats.html\">nearly 100 meters long!<\/a>) by 40 meters deep. This wreck contained several statues including the famous ephebe of Antikythera.\u00a0 This hollow bronze statue is an extremely rare archaeological artifact.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Back in Greece, the crew declared the discovery and the museum of Athens hastened to send a team. In view of the cargo, it is assumed that the ship was Roman, that it came from Asia Minor, perhaps from Pergamon and that it had stopped at Rhodes. The shipwreck is dated &#8211; 85, during the wars of Mithridate.<\/p>\n<p>But back to Antikythera, on the underwater site where the archaeological team of Athens has just joined the divers.\u00a0 Contrary to expectations, the search was particularly long and costly. Several accidents were reported, including one fatal. It is by going up a marble statue representing a horse that one of the divers was killed. The statue, breaking its cables, was definitely lost.<\/p>\n<p>In the cargo was a particular object. When the gangue broke, various gears and mechanisms were discovered. It was mistaken for an astrolabe and the object was forgotten in the reserves &#8230;Look like Indiana Jones!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-68032 size-full\" title=\"Le calculateur d\u00e9pli\u00e9, pr\u00eat \u00e0 servir --- iks24\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-mecansime-ouvert-iks24-900x540-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"540\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">X-ray scanner<\/h4>\n<p>It was not until 1955 that a researcher finally became interested. Derek de Solla Price, a British academic, began a thorough study to which he devoted the rest of his life. In 1980, the Internet intensified reflection on the object.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-68068 size-full\" title=\"Le calculateur referm\u00e9 (dos) -- reconstitution\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-ferme-face-600x1000-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"1000\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Four reconstructions were made. In 2000 the study of the calculator brings together about 150 people from several universities. The fields of application range from history to maths, geometry, astronomy, epigraphy\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The search was facilitated by the grant of an X-ray scanner capable of showing the inside of the cases without disassembly and with remarkable precision.<\/p>\n<p>The Antikythera calculator comes in the form of a book, with several shutters on a case. Protected by a bronze cover, the first &#8220;page&#8221; seems to be an introduction to astronomy.<\/p>\n<p>But according to research from 2024, the main function of this craft would be to <a href=\"#\"><strong>capture gravitational waves.<\/strong><\/a><span class=\"note\">see further<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Other gears and needle rails would indicate lunar, solar, eclipses, even currents and winds.<\/p>\n<p>The beginning of the mechanism would be a calendar based on the Egyptian system, but the machine was indexed in duplicate, following the <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/calendar-caesar-pope-gregory-year-s-eve-spring-printemps-the-roman-year.html\">Greek Olympic calendar<\/a> and the Egyptian calendar. \u00a0 (<em>Source: Lecture by Eric Zurcher, synthesis of his thesis work.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">New advances<\/h4>\n<p>A first version of this article was published in 2011, containing notes posted on a first version put online in 2008. Today I have to repeat this article to include data revealed in Science et Vie of July 3, 2024.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Researchers at the University of Glasgow have used statistical modelling techniques of gravitational waves to analyse the holes in the ring of the mechanism\u2019s calendar. This study reveals that the ring probably contained 354 holes, corresponding to a Greek lunar calendar, highlighting the precision of the craftsmen of the time.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Techniques used by the team include Bayesian analysis and \u201cMarkov chain Monte Carlo methods\u201d (statistical techniques used to sample complex probability distributions). These tools make it possible to quantify uncertainty based on incomplete data and provide probabilistic results.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-19116 size-full\" title=\"La m\u00e9canique d'Anticyth\u00e8re  telle que d\u00e9couverte au fond de la mer \u00c9gee  --  iks24 --  d'apr\u00e8s User:Marsyas --wikimedia\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ordinateur-anticythere-688po.jpg\" alt=\"ordinateur-anticythere-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Extreme precision<\/h4>\n<p><em>&#8220;This approach revealed that the ring of the calendar probably contained 354 holes, corresponding to a Greek lunar calendar of 354 days. The results of this study were published in Horological Journal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The precision of the holes in the ring of the calendar is particularly remarkable. The researchers found that the holes were positioned with an average radial variation of only 0.028 mm, reflecting the precision and care provided by Greek craftsmen.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-68044 size-full\" title=\"M\u00e9moire akashique -- iks24\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/memoires-akashiques-iks24-480x800-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"800\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p>For the researchers, this discovery reinforces the idea that the Antikythera mechanism was not only an astronomical tool, but also a work of advanced engineering. <em>&#8220;We hope that our discoveries on the Antikythera mechanism, although less spectacular and supernatural than those made by Indiana Jones, will help deepen our understanding of how this remarkable device was made and used by the Greeks\u00bb concludes in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gla.ac.uk\/news\/headline_1086643_en.html\">statement<\/a><\/em> <em>Graham Woan, professor at the School of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Glasgow and one of the authors of the study.&#8221; (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.science-et-vie.com\/science-et-culture\/lenigme-du-mecanisme-danticythere-pourrait-etre-resolue-grace-a-des-techniques-danalyses-des-ondes-gravitationnelles-170426.html\">source<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">A lunar calendar<\/h4>\n<p>It seems obvious that this camera is not a Greek or Roman invention. It is a vestige of the planetary technology of the Pyramids civilization, which some call Atlantis. And it\u2019s also a great insight, the door to oblivion suddenly open. It filters the beautiful light of a world always present in the secret of the heart&#8230; and in the <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/initiation-castaneda-shambala-philosophy-jung-uncouscious-jim-morrison-akashic-records.html\">akashic memory<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>A calculator capable of giving astronomical positions of a confusing precision&#8230; A lunar calendar of 354 days&#8230; All this raises a lot of questions. Knowing astronomical data with this accuracy is only useful for space travelers. Did the ancient Greeks travel through space? I don\u2019t think so. This machine does not date from antiquity, but <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/gordon-cooper-finds-olmecs-deep-knowledge-in-astronautics.html\">from an earlier period<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It would be easy to calculate the date based on the exact length of the lunar year at this or that time. We know that in remote times the year had twelve months of 30 days, or 360 days. That is the origin of the 360\u00b0 circle. This machine dates from an intermediate period when the year had already extended by several days. The astronomical data calculated by said machine could bring to this degree of precision.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-68033 size-full\" title=\"Les vestiges \u00e9rod\u00e9s du calculateur sont expos\u00e9s au Mus\u00e9e arch\u00e9ologique d'Ath\u00e8nes\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-au-musee-athenes-iks24-1900x1140-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1900\" height=\"1140\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Gravitational waves<\/h4>\n<p>According to the very serious New York Times, the main function of this craft would be to capture gravitational waves. One touches on science fiction which is not in the future, but in the most distant past. This is the (modest!) triumph of all the thesis advanced in this site since 2008. <strong><em>Capture gravitational waves!<\/em><\/strong> The researchers from Glasgow say so.<\/p>\n<p><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-68069 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/einstein-albert-gp-iks24-600x1000-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"1000\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/initiation-newald-castaneda-exploring-unknown-guide-of-5-parallel-universes.html\">Quantum physics<\/a> leads us to think that it could be <strong>a machine used for time travel<\/strong>&#8230; Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr are no longer there to see that, too bad&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Our historians refuse to consider the existence of an advanced planetary civilization that disappeared before the dawn of our antiquity. This ignorance leads them to naive judgments and inevitably truncated analyses. The case of Antikythera\u2019s computer only confirms what I already knew.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Goddess Techne<\/h4>\n<p><em>&#8220;For the Greeks, Mechanics is a branch of Technology, a gift of the goddess Techne. The triumph of technology allows man to dominate nature. Sources claim that <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/inventions-of-archimedes.html\">Archimedes<\/a> built a complex mechanics, a planetarium. The innovation lies in a system of redistribution of the movement called differential. This decisive invention &#8211;more or less forgotten until Leonardo da Vinci&#8211; was nevertheless included in the computeur of Antikythera.\u00a0 By acquiring this type of machine, every Roman aristocrat ensured an exceptional social reputation.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>It is therefore possible that this mechanism is the product of an order. But it seems more likely that it is, like the cargo, the spoils of looting after a military victory. Originally the machine gave the date, the movement of the sky, the direction of the winds, their intensity, their period (some winds have long been assimilated to certain lunar phases).\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/antique-technology-mahabharata-massive-destruction-weapons-former-gods-arsenal.html\">Technology<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/electricity-pyramidion-upuaut-kheops-ventilation-shaft-irian-jaya-booya-antique-vril.html\">science<\/a> are not unique to our centuries. The computer of Antikythera demonstrates it: men quickly asked themselves important questions concerning astronomy in particular.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The civilizations that preceded us have acquired a certain degree of knowledge, with limited means. The Antikythera computer demonstrates the breadth of Greek knowledge in astronomy, mathematics, geometry, craftsmanship and cultural refinement.&#8221; (Eric Zurcher)<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Devastating assumptions<\/h4>\n<p>The researcher Eric Zurcher gave a synthesis of his work of memory, himself having led to a publication. This excerpt summarizes the knowledge gained on this complex calculator. The conclusions of the speaker are in line with the current dominant thinking, so we will not blame the author, who follows the herd.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It is no less painful to hear about the Greeks or the Romans: &#8220;<em>Men quickly asked themselves important questions<\/em>&#8220;. Quickly! Like the Greeks or Romans just got off the banana tree!\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This knowledge was <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/ancient-greece-did-not-start-civilization.html\">not born with the Greeks<\/a>. As in the case of the so-called <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/pythagoras-theorem.html\">Pythagoras theorem<\/a>, this is certainly prior knowledge transmitted by the Greeks. If this knowledge were contemporary with the Greeks, the mechanics of Antikythera would not be a single object. The Greeks, like the Egyptians, are heirs to a very long period of <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/futuristic-atlantis-vril-planes-bus-video-left-right-brain.html\">science<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/proto-historic-olmec-egypt-sumer-chavin-tuatha-rama-orphan-civilizations.html\">civilization<\/a>. Many of us already know this, but science still ignores &#8212; or pretend to.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"perfect-quotes\"><p>&#8220;The Black ignores that his ancestors, who adapted to the material conditions of the Nile Valley, are the oldest guides of humanity on the path of civilization&#8221;<\/p><footer class=\"blockquote-footer\">Cheikh Anta Diop<\/footer><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Zurcher adds: <em>&#8220;The civilizations that preceded us have acquired a certain degree of knowledge, with limited means.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This is unfair and totally absurd. Everything happens as if scientific or technological progress followed a regular curve from the ignorance of the Cromagnons to the breathtaking knowledge of contemporary scientists. What nonsense!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-68053 size-full\" title=\"Cette myst\u00e9rieuse machine vieille d'au moins 2000 ans intrigue les chercheurs...  -- iks24\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/anticythere-detail-iks24-1000x600-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Antiquity in decline<\/h4>\n<p>If the Greeks or the Romans had many limited means, the Franks or the Goths of the Middle Ages had even more limited means. In Greco-Latin antiquity, the use of glass for windows was known, houses had running water and underfloor heating. There were hot baths and toilets.<\/p>\n<p>It is through centuries and so-called barbaric invasions that this comfort and technology have disappeared. It only takes a period of barbarism to <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/flood-deluge-survivors-back-to-the-wildness-mind-powers-the-mad-max-effect.html\">erase centuries of progress<\/a>. Ancient Greek medicine was probably more effective than that of the <a href=\"#\">physicists<\/a><span class=\"note\">ie doctors<\/span> of Moli\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, if we go back <strong>two or three thousand years <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/ancient-greece-did-not-start-civilization.html\">before Ancient Greece<\/a><\/strong>, we discover a surgery comparable to ours. The innumerable <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/anthropology-loic-hibon-neolithic-trepanation-awakening-technique-be-god.html\">trepanations of the Neolithic<\/a> are the formal proof of this. The same goes for the very common cataract surgery in ancient Egypt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Neolithic technology<\/h4>\n<p>And it is understood that Greco-Latin antiquity was in decline compared to earlier periods. Everything happens as if technology and know-how had only decreased over the millennia, until the 17th century, where a new era opens: the goddess Techn\u00e9 is finally back.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-68045 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/guerres-de-lucas-iks24-300x500-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"500\" \/>This led us to believe in the silly myth of growing progress. It is shrinking, on the contrary. The vector of progress must be reversed, as many visionaries have already understood.<\/p>\n<p>We were created, educated, developed by a race from elsewhere, whose skills still prodigiously exceed ours. When will we be able to terraform a wild planet, as they did for Terra?<\/p>\n<p>Everyone knows Star Wars, a masterpiece by George Lukas whose sequel, alas, is massacred on the channel by Disney productions with a D like Dollar. In 1977, Lukas struggled to find capital for his project. Too visionary, too incredible, too megalomaniac for the time. No producer wanted to risk a kopeck on this nonsense&#8230; which has been successful as we know.<\/p>\n<p>Remember the very first image. Against the backdrop of starry space, a text goes up under as if to overwhelm us. What does this incredible text say? <em>&#8220;A very long time ago&#8230;&#8221;<\/em> etc. Yes, the wars of the Black Star took place in the depths of an immemorial past.\u00a0 The public accepts the obvious. Artists have known this for a long time. Everyone agrees&#8230; except the specialists of the past who cling to their chimeras. It\u2019s petty. So outdated!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">The lens of Nemrod<\/h4>\n<p>Other findings clearly show that technology is a very old reality. <em>&#8220;Ancient knowledge was much more refined and developed than what we have learned so far. From electric batteries to planispheres, an assortment of gadgets were exhumed by excavations.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The two most notable finds were the Nemrod lens and the famous Antikythera mechanism. The ancient 3,000-year-old Nemrod objective was discovered in Nemrod Palace, Iraq. Some experts believe that the lens was part of an ancient telescope of the Babylonians, hence their in-depth knowledge of astronomy. And the famous Antikythera mechanism (200 BCE before the common era) was created to calculate the movements of the sun, moon and planets, in order to predict celestial events. Unfortunately, we can only speculate on the origin of these devices. Who created them? How were they used? Why did this ancient knowledge present for millennia disappear afterwards?&#8221;<\/em> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/HHOCTP\/photos\/a.1417966048520855.1073741828.1417881335195993\/1419208181729975\/?type=1&amp;theater\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">(source)<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-68034\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/lentille-de-nemrod-britishMuseum-900x540-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"540\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">In the mists of time<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Seen from this angle, the Antikythera calculator is not the work of a brilliant craftsman of the 1st millennium BCE. The craftsman, very skillful, would have been only the copyist of a much older mechanism, itself copied from another, etc. This is how the famous portulans of the Turkish admiral Piri Reis were transmitted to us. Metal, like paper, degrades with the years. Zealous copyists have been regularly asked to reproduce knowledge that is lost in the mists of time.<\/p>\n<p>We have seen how the ancient Greeks, heirs of knowledge that far exceeded their level of understanding, were led to errors of interpretation sometimes very funny, like the myth of the cave of Plato. As long as history persists in denying the obvious, we will continue to ignore millennia of human adventure. Why do intellectuals have to be so stupid? No question: it\u2019s called kaliyuga.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Ancient Technology<\/h2>\n<ul id=\"item_2239\" class=\"collapse show\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\n<li><a title=\"Are we about to recover the expertise of Atlanteans? Did they come from the stars?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/mythologies-planes-rockets-weapons-boats-highspeed-music-david-childress-technology-of-the-gods.html\">High Tech Prehistory<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"From the flying carpets of the Arabian Nights to the ardent wheels of the prophet Ezekiel, our past loves air travel\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/antique-planes-bacon-vinci-rousseau-ufo-landing-on-arased-mountains-solomon-s-thrones.html\">Secret History Of Ancient Aircrafts<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Lightning conductors, batteries, superconductors, we invented nothing\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/electricity-pyramidion-upuaut-kheops-ventilation-shaft-irian-jaya-booya-antique-vril.html\">Ancient Energy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Puzzling lamps were lighting since antiquity when discovered\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/initiation-science-atlantis-perpetual-lamps-vril-booya-jiechele.html\">Perpetual Lamps<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The Atlanteans and Hyperboreans used certain properties of metals that our civilization ignores.\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/physics-mhd-jp-petit-longer-boats-hydrophobic-metals-antique-propulsion-high-speed.html\">The Meaning Of Tao<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Two kinds of Vimana: planes and UFOs from a highly developped civilization\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/vimana-plane-ufo-very-ancient-flying-machine.html\">Vimana, ancient UFO?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Very ancient civilizations had planes, rockets and even submarines\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/mythology-rama-atlantis-planes-submarines-vimanas-vailixis.html\">Vimanas And Antigravity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Highly miniaturized industrial objects dating back at least 20,000 years\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/artifact-nanotechnology-russia-oural-prehistoric-ufo.html\">A Prehistoric UFO<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The tower of Babel signed the end of human telepathy\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/hebrew-mythology-one-adamic-language-babel-multiply-languages.html\">The Tower Of Babel<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The famous tower of Babel was a spaceship launch pad\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/hebrew-mythology-revisited-boulay-space-center-babel.html\">The Spaceship Of Babel<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The megalithic fondation of Baal Zeus temple in Baalbek is the remains of ancient spaceport.\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/baalbek-spaceport.html\">Baalbek Spaceport<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"An Assyrian relief displays flying giants\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/storming-of-lachish.html\">The Giants of Lachish<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Incredible robot descriptions cast doubt on ancient technology ... which seems to be quite real!\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/ancient-robots.html\">Ancient Robots<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Apart from the form, what is in common between a triskell and the handspinner?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/triskell-and-handspinner.html\">Triskell And Handspinner<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Looking for ancient technology evidences desperately\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/lack-of-evidence.html\">What Lack Of Evidence?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-40262 size-full\" title=\"La m\u00e9canique d'Anticyth\u00e8re, par SKI Stef Kervor Infographie pour Eden Saga, d'apr\u00e8s : Original: User:Marsyas - CC BY-SA 2,5 -- https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Antikythera_Mechanissem_w.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ordinateur-anticythere-ski2020-1200x720.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>New Archaeology<\/h2>\n<ul id=\"item_2250\" class=\"collapse show\" aria-expanded=\"true\">\n<li><a title=\"The Bosnian pyramids: a cruel hoax, according to archaeologists. An interesting track for the others. \" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/neolithic-osmanagic-against-archeologists-stone-globes-bosnian-pyramid.html\">Bosnia: Pyramid Of The Sun<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The discoveries are progressing, the struggle goes on!\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/pyramids-of-bosnia-osmanagic-pluridisciplinary-researchers-team.html\">Bosnia: Osmanagic Adventure<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"While old-style scientists still doubt, unearthing continues under the guidance of Doc Osmanagic\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/bosnian-pyramids-3.html\">Bosnia: Visoko Pyramids<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"What goes on in Ravne tunnel, Visoko, Bosnia ? I asked Dr Osmanagic\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/bosnia-the-ravne-tunnel.html\">Bosnia: The Ravne Tunnel<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"It offers to the visitor a bunch of magical places: Fontaine de Barenton, Miroir aux F\u00e9es, Val sans Retour \u2026\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/britanny-celtic-journey-barenton-miroir-aux-fees-val-sans-retour-broceliande-dark-forest.html\">Dark Forest<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The Fontainebleau forest shows curious rocks : animals, human heads... Are they really natural?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/shamanism-geology-living-earth-animal-human-rocks-fontainebleau.html\">Strange Rocks At Fontainebleau<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Natural phenomena, extraterrestrial messages, or works of ephemeral art?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/uk-avebury-henge-west-kennet-barge-inn-wiltshire-crop-circles.html\">Wiltshire Crop Circles<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Bermuda's Triangle, Devil Sea in Japan, unexplained phenomena.\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/unexplained-planes-and-boats-disparitions-japan-devil-sea-bermuda-s-triangle.html\">Bermuda&#8217;s Triangle<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Japan got its own Bermuda's triangle. It is called the Devil's Sea.\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/unexplained-planes-and-boats-disparitions-japan-devil-sea-japan-sharks-bay-bali.html\">Devil&#8217;s Sea, Japan<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Two Mounts Thabor, two places linked, one in France, the other in Israel. What link?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/two-mounts-thabor.html\">The Two Mounts Thabor<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"A good amount of liquid mercury found under a pyramid in Teotihuacan, Mexico. Wonder why?\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/teotihuacan-mercury.html\">Teotihuacan Mercury<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"While contemplating them I made a stone dream that I want to share with you\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/pumapunku-stones.html\">The Stones Of Puma Punku<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Stones are the witnesses of ancient Earth mysteries. \" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/stones-mystery.html\">The Deep Mystery Of Stones<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Cyclopean constructins would not be stone, but molded cement\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/andes-cities-plant-sap-positionning-of-soft-stone.html\">Soft Stones<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"The lost art of softening the stones and removing their weight\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/andes-balbeck-cusco-giant-blocks-plant-juice-made-soft-stone-flying-stones.html\">Flying Stones<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-68035\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/crop-circle-wiltshire-1000x600-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Our historians refuse to consider the existence of an advanced global civilization disappeared before the dawn of our antiquity.<\/p>\n<p>This ignorance leads to naive judgments and zero analysis. The case of the Antikythera PC confirms this.<\/p>\n<p><em>For the Greeks, mechanics is a branch of technology, gift of the goddess Techn\u00e9. The triumph of technology allows man to dominate nature. Sources claim that Archimedes<\/em><em>\u00a0had constructed a complex mechanism, a planetarium. The innovation lay in a system of redistribution of movement called differential. This determining invention, that was more or less forgotten until Leonardo da Vinci, was nevertheless included in The Antikythera Computer.\u00a0<\/em>By acquiring this type of machine, every Roman aristocrat ensured exceptional reputation and social outstanding.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Therefore it is possible that this mechanism was the product of an order. But it seems more likely to be, as well as the cargo,\u00a0the spoils of a plundering\u00a0after a military victory. In this case, its origin and age remain unknown.\u00a0Originally the machine gave the day, the movement of the sky but also the winds direction, their intensity, their period: winds had long been associated to lunar phases.\u00a0<em>Technology<\/em><em>\u00a0and science below are not fields specific to our centuries. The Antikythera Computer is the evidence: men quickly raised important questions, especially astronomy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The civilizations that have preceded us had acquired a certain degree of knowledge, with limited means The Antikythera Computer shows\u00a0<a href=\"#\">the extent of the Greek knowledge<\/a><span class=\"note\">Or prior knowledge transmitted by the Greeks. <\/span>in astronomy, mathematics, geometry, crafts and cultural refinement.\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">This conference of Eric Zurcher is a summary of his thesis work, which itself resulted in a publication.<\/span>\u00a0These excerpts from a\u00a0<a href=\"#\"><em>&#8220;scientific&#8221;<\/em><\/a><span class=\"note\">I pity this kind of science!<\/span>\u00a0conference summarize the current knowledge about this complex calculator. The findings of the lecturer are directly in line with the current mainstream thinking, so we won&#8217;t hold it against the author, who was saying what everyone said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>However it is painful to hear about the Greeks or the Romans:\u00a0<em>&#8220;<\/em><em>Men quickly raised important questions<\/em><em>&#8220;<\/em>\u00a0Quickly! As if they just came down the banana trees! This knowledge was not born with the Greeks.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As in the case of the <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/science-pythagoras-theorem-geometry-forgery-babylon-celtic-druids.html\">theorem of Pythagoras<\/a>, it was certainly prior knowledge transmitted by the Greeks. If this mechanical knowledge were contemporary of the ancient Greeks, Antikythera computer would not be a single object.\u00a0Like the ancient Egyptians, the ancient Greeks are the inheritors of a very long period of science and civilization. Many of us already know, but shocked science still refuse evidence.<\/p>\n<p>The author adds: &#8220;The\u00a0<em>civilizations that have preceded us acquired a certain degree of knowledge, with limited means.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0If the Greeks or the Romans had limited means, the Franks and Goths in the Middle Ages had far more limited means then. Where is the progress in this case?\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 17px\">Greco-Roman antiquity used glass for windows ; houses had running water, underfloor heating, hot baths and toilets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This is over the centuries and barbaric\u00a0invasions\u00a0that comfort and technology have disappeared. Just a period of barbarism to <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/flood-deluge-survivors-back-to-the-wildness-mind-powers-the-mad-max-effect.html\">erase centuries of progress<\/a>.\u00a0Ancient Greek medicine was probably more powerful than that of the <a href=\"#\">physicians<\/a><span class=\"note\">doctors<\/span> of Moliere. On the other hand, if you go back two or three thousand years before the ancient Greeks, you will find a medicine and surgery comparable to ours. The countless Neolithic trepanations clearly demonstrate.\u00a0It looks as both technology and know-how had steadily decreased over the millennia, until the 17th century, when finally started a new technological era. At long last !<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Many other findings clearly show that technology is a very ancient reality. <em>&#8220;Ancient knowledge was a lot more refined and developed than we have been taught hitherto. From batteries to planispheres, an assortment of gadgets have been excavated and found.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><em>Two notable finds were the Nimrud lens and the famous Antikythera Mechanism. The 3,000 year old Nimrud lens was discovered at the palace of Nimrud, in Iraq. Some experts believe the lens was part of an ancient telescope the Babylonians used, hence their advanced knowledge of astronomy.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><em>And the famous Antikythera Mechanism (200 BC.) was created to calculate the movements of the sun, moon and planets to predict celestial events. Unfortunately, we can only speculate on the ways many of these devices were created, used and why the ancient knowledge pertaining to them disappeared for millennia afterwards.&#8221;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/HHOCTP\/photos\/a.1417966048520855.1073741828.1417881335195993\/1419208181729975\/?type=1&amp;theater\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">(source)<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Seen in this light, the Antikythera Computer is not the work of a brilliant craftsman of the first millennium BC. The craftsman, very clever, would have been the copyist of a much older mechanics, itself copied from another, etc..<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-40262 size-full\" title=\"La m\u00e9canique d'Anticyth\u00e8re, par SKI Stef Kervor Infographie pour Eden Saga, d'apr\u00e8s : Original: User:Marsyas - CC BY-SA 2,5 -- https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Antikythera_Mechanissem_w.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ordinateur-anticythere-ski2020-1200x720.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"720\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Thus the famous portolans of Admiral Piri Reis of Turkey have been passed down to us. Metal, such as paper, deteriorates with age. Zealous scribes, skilled craftsmen have been regularly asked to reproduce knowledge that get lost in the mists of time.\u00a0We have seen how the ancient Greeks, inheritors of very ancient knowledge that far exceeded their level of understanding, were led to very comical misinterpretation sometimes, as the myth of <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/initiation-philosophy-history-plato-myth-of-cavern.html\">Plato&#8217;s cave<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">\u00a0As history persists in denying the evidence, we will continue to ignore thousands of years of human adventure. Why must intellectuals be so stupid? Simple enough: it&#8217;s called <a class=\"link\" href=\"\/en\/prophecy-age-of-aquarius-coming-soon-eden-again.html\">Kaliyuga<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The mystery of this ancient computer started at Easter 1900, still going on. <!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":51252,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2239],"tags":[2284,1683,1682,1678,1681,2285],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10281"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10281"}],"version-history":[{"count":48,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10281\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31570,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10281\/revisions\/31570"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/51252"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10281"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10281"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10281"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}