{"id":13525,"date":"2015-05-16T03:27:34","date_gmt":"2015-05-16T02:27:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/?p=13525"},"modified":"2025-12-06T10:22:54","modified_gmt":"2025-12-06T09:22:54","slug":"ramifications","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/ramifications.html","title":{"rendered":"Ramifications"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-18402 size-full\" title=\"Stef Kervor, sur fond  GFDL-WITH-DISCLAIMERS; Released under the GNU Free Documentation License - first upload:  Matheesha at en.wikipedia\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/rama-navami-belier-688po.jpg\" alt=\"rama-navami-belier-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"The Thrace of Rama\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/thrace-rama-hram-bulgaria-harama.html\">Rama track<\/a> never ceases to ramify. Ram in my RAM, Rome in my ROM, all is ramming the point home\u00a0to <a title=\"The Hundred Faces Of Rama\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/ram-ramos-rama-re-abram-lama-fo-pa-dionysus-bel-belenos.html\">Rama<\/a>. My memories are rammed, I let Ram\u00a0<a title=\"The Odyssey of Rama\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/mythologies-homer-aede-ram-aries-era-of-ram-second-atlantis-odyssey-of-rama.html\">on the rampage<\/a>\u00a0when he was rambling through Europe to Asia, dramatic panorama or angelic rampart when <a title=\"Rama the Conqueror\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/odyssey-rama-exodus-armenia-indo-persian-conquest.html\">General Rama<\/a> becomes Prince Charming Rama.<br \/>\n\u00a0<br \/>\nThis new track is added to the previous ones, without effort on my part, rather a kind of contagion.\u00a0The research that follows is not mine, it was made by a friend who nabbed the virus to my touch. I give him the floor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Immram of Rama<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><em>&#8220;The Western monasticism had not the eastern deserts as inspiration. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">\u00a0<em>You have to look at the other end of Europe to the Celtic lands, to understand it. Evangelized between the second and the fifth century, North Gaul and the British Isles &#8211; Ireland in particular &#8211; are covered with\u00a0monasteries in the sixth century It is a collective model of flight from the world that is growing, but not necessarily full life together &#8211; some monks have their own huts. The abbots are cements in these communities that also are intended to complete the evangelism. The Irish St. Colomban and Saint Brendan are itinerant monks, combining Celtic heritage and Christian vocation. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>In the Celtic tradition, they take the &#8220;Immram&#8221; the travelogue of a mythological hero, they Christianized through the pattern of peregrinatio Proter Deum (pilgrimage to God)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In the word<strong> immram<\/strong>, it is easy to recognize the root <strong>RAM<\/strong>, which refers to Rama. The first Immram has been the incredible journey of mythological hero Rama, the first king of men.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><em>&#8220;A <strong>Immram<\/strong> (plural <strong>Immrama<\/strong>) is a kind\u00a0of tales of Irish mythology that narrates the travel\u00a0of a hero (or important person) in the Other World of the Celts, sometimes called T\u00edr na n\u00d3g (the &#8220;Land of Youth&#8221;) and Mag Mell (the &#8220;Plain Fun&#8221;). Written in the context of Irish monasticism, they present a Christianized version of these myths, while maintaining a Celtic substrate. The usual translation of the Gaelic word is traveling or navigation.&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Immram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">(source)<br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Traveling, as the incredible Odysseus of Rama. Navigation by sea or by air, using his ramjets &#8211; the vimanas of Rama.<a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Immram\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24655 size-full\" title=\"Ram \/ B\u00e9lier, collage -- qta3 -- http:\/\/darksilenceinsuburbia.tumblr.com\/post\/110688257070\/qta3-collages-on-tumblr\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/belier-collage-qta3-688pk.jpg\" alt=\"belier-collage-qta3-688pk\" width=\"688\" height=\"688\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Immram for God<\/h4>\n<p>But since this mythical <em>immram<\/em>, original, the new religion made a clean sweep of that nonsense. Yet here and there, practices do persist. To make it possible through centuries, they must evolve, and\u00a0hide. Former immram was the trip of a god, the new immram is a pilgrimage to God.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;This ascetic exile is missionary journey. they intend to spread Christianity, and founded the Monasteries for it. In other words, if they do not fix themselves, they contribute to trust the monks in the countries they travel, and especially they write rules for these monks. Saint Brendan trip and almost thirty years of Iceland in Brittany (French), or even to the Azores and Madeira.&#8221;\u00a0 <a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Extract from the magazine &#8220;L&#8217;Histoire les Collections &#8211; L&#8217;\u00c2GE D&#8217;OR DES ABBAYES&#8221; april-june 2015<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0Tradition says <a title=\"America Was Often Discovered\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/america-always-known-saint-brandan-saint-malo-viking-erik-the-templars.html\">he went to Americas<\/a> as well, in company of Saint Malo from Brittany.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;We owe him the prestigious Irish monastery Clonfert founded in the sixth century and, according to some medieval authors, would have allowed thousands of monks. Brendan wrote a rule for them, which was dictated to him by an angel according to vita sancti Brendani. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Saint Columban is certainly the one who founded the most monasteries during his travels. His disciples have spread his rule. Hard, it is based on the authority of the abbot, prayer, mortification (floggings and corporal punishment are many) and the manual and intellectual work. In the seventh century, houses claim to his rule of the British Isles in the Rhine valley and Italy (Bobbio) through the Paris Basin and Normandy (Coutances).&#8221; \u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Extract from the magazine &#8220;L&#8217;Histoire les Collections &#8211; L&#8217;\u00c2GE D&#8217;OR DES ABBAYES&#8221; april-june 2015<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The Irish dynamism helps to root Christianity in the Frankish world and evangelize little Christianized regions such as Alemannia (Switzerland and German South-West). He was at the origin of important cultural revivals, using the expertise of pagan artists. Thus, their shields ornmentation work finds its extensions on the pages of liturgical manuscripts. Illumination was born&#8221;<\/em> <a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Extract from the magazine &#8220;L&#8217;Histoire les Collections &#8211; L&#8217;\u00c2GE D&#8217;OR DES ABBAYES&#8221; april-june 2015<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Three great Immrama are known &#8211; and what interests us is &#8211; like panorama &#8211; the one that was at the origin of these epics in his honor that became a common name in the Celtic world.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This is also linked to Homer and Odyssey. The sacred thread of Rama was taken over by these monks evangelizing another religion, and despite them teaching\u00a0the ancient tradition they fight. &#8221;\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">LZ, Notes de recherche<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>But are they really fighting?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">Monks or Druids?<\/h4>\n<p>These wise and adventurous men had found a good way to preserve <a title=\"The Old Religion of Druids\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/religion-tradition-celtism-druidism-old-religion.html\">their sacred culture<\/a> in the troubled centuries that marked the decline of Rome and the future of the Holy Germanic Roman Empire. Centuries troubled by real events or by History traps.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-19428 size-full\" title=\"Darth Jesus  Our Sith Lord hisself. -- auteur : phi zeroth -- https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/fien\/3021585866  ---- modifi\u00e9 par Stef Kervor pour Eden Saga\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/darth-jesus-complet-688po.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>For it may be that some of these centuries have never existed. It could be that we were told stories,\u00a0Jesus\u00a0could have\u00a0never existed, and\u00a0Christ\u00a0could possibly be\u00a0a Roman emperor<\/p>\n<p>The Irish monks\u00a0could\u00a0spread the knowledge of the ancient religion and sow the hallowed footsteps throughout Europe to the Caucasus. And later in &#8220;holy land&#8221;, thanks to the effort of the Templars, who are the heirs of Brendan and Malo andColumban, famous traveling monks -or druids &#8211; of the Middle Ages.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;The pioneers monks were called illiterate &#8230; I rather think thy speake foreign language, ie Irish\u00a0as Urs (Ursicinus) which is\u00a0said to be the founder of\u00a0a community before\u00a0retiring to a cave and tamed wild animals. <\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><em>Monk Ursinus came from Ireland. But Ursicinus was also the name of a Roman general.\u00a0\u00a0Ursicinus was a senior military officer, holding the rank of &#8220;master of cavalry&#8221; (magister equitum) in the later Roman Empire c. 349\u2013359.<sup>[<\/sup>In AD 351 or 352 he was entrusted with the suppression of the Jewish revolt against Caesar Constantius Gallus.\u00a0<\/em><em>Tiberias and Diospolis, two of the cities conquered by the rebels, were almost completely destroyed, while Diocaesarea was razed to the ground.Ursicinus also was ordered to kill several thousand rebels, even young ones.<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Wikipedia<\/span>\u00a0<em> I discovered this yesterday.<\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">Ludmilla Z. Research Notes<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Congratulations on this great discovery! I add that Urs refers to <a title=\"The Wolf Clan\" href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/initiation-tuatha-de-danaan-holy-building-the-wolf-clan-and-other-clans.html\">the Bear Clan<\/a>, a Celtic and Amerindian clan. It is also in the name of Prince Arthur or Arthus, a Celtic prince educated in Rome. Rome, Rama, the Celts, some\u00a0Irish monks &#8230; We expect to see Corto Maltese passing through\u00a0the page &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-19560 size-full\" title=\"Corto Maltese, par Hugo Pratt, \u00e9ditions Casterman -- ActuaLitt\u00e9 - Lancement Corto Maltese:   Sous le soleil de minuit, publi\u00e9 chez Casterman -- https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/actualitte\/21844110832\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/corto-maltese-688po.jpg\" alt=\"corto-maltese-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rama track never ceases to ramify. 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