{"id":21674,"date":"2017-03-22T12:52:25","date_gmt":"2017-03-22T11:52:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/?p=21674"},"modified":"2025-02-15T07:38:42","modified_gmt":"2025-02-15T06:38:42","slug":"lame-selon-jung","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/lame-selon-jung.html","title":{"rendered":"Jung And The Soul"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-23690 size-full\" title=\"Premiers plans : Carl Jung - By Unknown - &quot; 'America Facing Its Most Tragic Moment' -- Dr. Carl Jung&quot;, New York Times (29 September 1912), p. SM2. (url), Public Domain, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=462461 --- Arri\u00e8re plan : Carl Jung and Feminism - CC BY-SA - https:\/\/vimeo.com\/64682724 -- both modified by \/ les deux modifi\u00e9s par Stef Kervor pour Eden Saga\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/jung-ame-esprit-temps-profondeurs-sk-688po.jpg\" alt=\"jung-ame-esprit-temps-profondeurs-sk-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Some time ago, I evoked the soul in front of an atheist.<em> &#8220;What soul?&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0she said, <em>&#8220;I do not have any.&#8221;<\/em> Not at all disconcerted, I said: <em>&#8220;No, you have no soul, but I have one.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;ll continue with the interrupted sentence. The atheist makes the face. She thought she was sure of herself, convinced that she had no soul, and now she doubted, jealous of this guy who said\u00a0<em>&#8220;you have no soul.&#8221;<\/em> Now she wants one!<\/p>\n<p>Ah the mysteries of the soul! In general I avoid this word-suitcase, this catch-all word which takes as many meanings as a bishop can bless. If he still has time for anything but\u00a0little boys.<\/p>\n<p>The soul is a fuzzy, overloaded notion, to which, honestly, few of us understand anything. The word <em>soul<\/em> comes from\u00a0another era. <a href=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/en\/jung-vs-freud.html\">Jung<\/a>, psychoanalyst, physician, and Christian, reads this. He, whom I venerate, does not escape the ambiguities of the concept.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;At that time I was still entirely a prisoner of the spirit of the time, I spoke a great deal about the soul, I knew many scholarly words about it, I made it an object of science. Not be the object of my judgment and my knowledge: it is my judgment and my knowledge which are the object of my soul.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>That is why the spirit of the depths compelled me to speak to my soul, to invoke it as a living being, existing by itself. I had lost my soul. For the spirit of this time, the soul is a thing that depends on man, which can be judged and classified, and from which we can grasp the magnitude.&#8221;<\/em> <a href=\"#\">(Source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">CG Jung, The Red Book, Liber Primus , Fol II<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now\u00a0the spirit of the depths is quite another thing: your soul is not yours, Jung tells us, it is you who belong to your soul. <em>&#8220;So I had to speak to my soul as to something remote and unknown that does not exist by me but by whom I exist.&#8221;\u00a0<a href=\"#\">(Source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">CG Jung, The Red Book, Liber Primus , Fol II<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">The spirit of the depths<\/h4>\n<p>Carl Jung opposes two forms of mind that direct our behavior: the spirit of time and the spirit of the depths. This dichotomy recalls that of the Catholic religious, who distinguished the spirit of the age and the spirit of the rule. The priests reverted to the spirit of the age, which is why they speak of secular clergy, while the monks, subject to the rule of their order, are called the regular clergy.<\/p>\n<p>The spirit of the depths of which Jung speaks does not obey a written rule, or conceived by men. The rule which animates it resembles the unwritten Rule of which Castaneda speaks, the Rule which\u00a0every warrior possesses inside, the Rule\u00a0which is the heart of the Nagual&#8217;s philosophy.<\/p>\n<p>In those days, Jung has just discovered this opposition\u00a0-or this complementarity- between the two forms of spirit. The spirit of the depths had not manifested itself before those days.<\/p>\n<p>There is an explanation for that. When he writes <em>The\u00a0Red Book<\/em>, Carl Gustav Jung has just passed the cape of his forties, and this age is not insignificant. At the age of 42, for\u00a0the druidic tradition, comes the sixth and last initiation. The first one occurs at the age of 7, the others follow each other every seven years. The sixth initiation, at 42, consecrates the spiritual maturity. From then on, the person is complete. But his\/her kingdom is no longer of this world. So are the great initiates.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-23695 size-full\" title=\"Carl Gustav Jung par Stef Kervor - d'apr\u00e8s Carl Jung and Feminism - CC BY-SA - https:\/\/vimeo.com\/64682724\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/jung-gp-sk-688po.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This is precisely what Dr. Jung has just experienced, which has done so far on the material, intellectual, affective and scientific level. He must consequently devote himself to spiritual realities, hence the sensation that he has of finding his soul long gone.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;If the desire turns away from external things, it reaches the seat of the soul, and if it does not find the soul, the horror of emptiness seizes on it and fear will drive it with lashes again and again In a desperate quest for the hollow things of the world to which he will blindly aspire.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>He will become the jester of his endless desire, withdraw from his soul and lose it so as never to find it again. He will run after all things, he will draw them all to him, but he will not find his soul, for he would find it only in himself. If he possessed his desire instead of his desire, he would have laid a hand on his soul, for desire is the image and expression of the soul.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> The richness of the soul is made of images. My friends, it is wise to feed the soul, otherwise you raise dragons and devils in your midst.<\/em>&#8221; <a href=\"#\">(Source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">CG Jung, The Red Book, Liber Primus , Fol II<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center\">The path to the soul<\/h4>\n<p>The soul is not given to us, because we belong to the soul, not the contrary. Our soul\u00a0is immortal, but we are not. Our soul\u00a0will survive and we will not know if we are not awake in this life. Our soul\u00a0will survive and we will survive in it if we have experienced awakening before we die, or at the time of death, it works too.<\/p>\n<p>Instead of soul, I will say the higher self, it is easier to understand, and it is less loaded. This higher self merges with being at the moment of awakening. As long as the awakening is not acquired, the soul\u00a0-or the higher self- floats somewhere above the person\u00a0that can only join it while sleeping. And again, the person rarely remembers when he\/she wakes up.<\/p>\n<p>The path to the soul is therefore the path to enlightenment. It is not a garden of roses, except for the thorns. Through the ordeals, my mother used to say, &#8220;Life is a slice of shit and every day we eat a little bit.&#8221; It is up to us to climb this path. And every day the climb continues, harassing. Difficult some evenings not to yield to discouragement.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;No tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell&#8221;<\/em> CG Jung used to say.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-19507 size-full\" title=\"A gauche : Carl Gustav Jung --  upload by Adrian Michael - Ortsmuseum Zollikon -- Public domain --  https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Carl_Jung#\/media\/File:CGJung.jpg  -- \u00e0 droite : Sigmund Freud,  par David Webb from Alicante, Spain - Sigmund Freud Uploaded by Viejo sabio - Wikimedia Commons - https:\/\/simple.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sigmund_Freud#\/media\/File:Sigmund_Freud_Anciano.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/eden-saga.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/carl-jung-et-sigmund-freud-688po.jpg\" alt=\"carl-jung-et-sigmund-freud-688po\" width=\"688\" height=\"413\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Would there be one among you who believes that you can do without the way?&#8221; &#8220;Being able to go along with the torture of Christ, to advance in deceit, I can say that this man is deceiving himself and is harmful to himself. Makes his bed upon thorns and fire, and the way of Christ can not be avoided for any one, for this way leads to what is to come: you must all become Christs.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>You will not overcome the old dogma by doing less but doing more. Every step that brought me closer to my soul aroused the mocking laughter of my devils, those cowardly poisoners who whispered their sarcasms in my ear. It was easy for them to laugh because I had strange things to do.&#8221; <em><a href=\"#\">(source)<\/a><span class=\"note\">C.G. Jung, The Red Book<em>,<\/em> Liber Primus, fol II<\/span>\u00a0<\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Even though Jesus has nothing historical, the concept of Christ was not invented for him. Many other Christs mark the unknown History of Humans. There are Mithra, Rama, Prometheus, Enki, Orpheus, Apollonius of Tyana, Emperor Constantine, and Heliogabalus before him, and Quetzalcoatl, Viracocha, Buddha &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Following them, on their track, it is up to us to rise to their level. It is the work of a lifetime, of all our lives. But I see no other goal worthy of our efforts.<\/p>\n<p>Following them, on their track, it is up to you to rise to their level. You have only this life, little life of yours, to conquer the summit of yourself. How many more years? The countdown has started at your birth. The goal is exhilarating, all steps cost you, all the minutes of suffering are centuries for you. It is the work of your life, of all life. 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